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Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mar Ago 04, 2009 7:38 pm
por ThePhoenixBird
Leyendo Hack-a-Day me consigo con un interenzate DIY (hagalo usted mismo) de una pasta termica casera hecha a base de polvo de diamantes, nada de plata ni Artic Silver, aqui les dejo el interezante articulo, los resultados obtenidos a mi parecer vale la pena, y el coste total de todos los componentes es aproximadamente 30$ en eBay
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Anybody who is a true computer hardware enthusiast these days knows that keeping your CPU from overheating while pushing it to its limits is one of the most important concerns. Thermal compounds like arctic silver are the front line of that defense, conducting the heat directly from the CPU to the heat sink. Without the compound, small imperfections in the surface of the heat sink can render the heat sink almost useless and lesser compounds can actually insulate your processor. Thermal compounds that are available for purchase have remained unchanged for some time. So I descided it was time to reinvent my thermal compound needs with some diamond dust!
  • contributing author: jared bouck
  • total project cost: $33.00
  • project difficulty: super easy
  • total construction time: .5 hour
  • coolness factor: diamond in the rough
  • geek score: 9.5
materials overview - what parts will you need

The most popular type of thermal compound has silver suspended in silicone grease. Research has been done by overclockers.com demonstrating a far superior type of thermal compound using diamond. Silver has a respectable thermal conductivity at: 429W/m K. Diamond on the other hand has a thermal conductivity of 900-2320 W/m K. So worst case scenario we double performance, and best case is roughly a 5x multiplier.

Another nice advantage with diamond is that it is not electrically conductive. Silver based compounds will conduct electricity which makes a sloppy application of the compound a risk for shorting out your expensive hardware.

It appears that several people have come up with this idea independently, but we didn’t want to make that fact stop us from sharing our two cents on the matter as well. There are mumbling's about commercially available compounds being in the works but we thought, “Why wait when we can have our candy now?” We are going to show you how to make your own diamond compound, and provide you with some of our own results for the improvements it provides in actual cooling performance. We will be comparing Arctic Silver to our home brewed batch of diamond compound. Pending some more testing and refinement we will be giving away a few "experimental samples" in a week or 2.

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The Diamonds:
25 Carats (5 grams) of 60,000 mesh diamond powder available for roughly $30 on eBay or as raw material, sometimes used in buffing compounds.

It’s worth mentioning that the purity of the diamond powder is an important factor. While most industrial diamonds are pure, some less than honest peeps will mix in other materials. Check on the purity with your vendor.

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The Grease:
Silicon grease compound containing: Polydimethylsiloxane and Polytetraflouroethylene. This is available at some hobby shops or your local chem shop. Make sure that the compound you get does not have a thermal conducting component like zinc oxide as this would provide an insulating value compared to our diamond.

Tools that we used ( i.e. you may want to use as well )
One note on power tools: use them at your own risk. Be sure to read and understand any and all documentation on the tools you use. No amount of documentation can make up for experience, but there are many people with serious eye injuries from the school of hard knocks. If you don't know what you are doing, don't do it, and find someone that can help.

Screwdrivers
Breathing protection!!!
Pliers

assembly - square peg in a round hole

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The diamond powder is very abrasive and is a hazard if inhaled. You should mix it in a small container with a closable lid. To make our own mixer we will start by bending a paperclip into a stirring paddle. the depth of the stirrer should be as deep as the container you have.

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I found a small ear plug container in my assorted parts bin to use for this but a film canister would work well to, and in hind site I think a small ziplock bag and just squishing it would work real well also. Poke a hole in the lid for the stirrer and insert the bent paperclip.

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Safety is king in the project. I thought it was funny i got this little branded reminder on my mixer.

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Now we just add our ingredients. At a minimum I recommend using a good dust mask when adding the diamond powder. We are mixing 13 grams total of our compound, 5 diamonds, 4 grams Polydimethylsiloxane, 4 grams Polytetraflouroethylene.

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We want to use our little stirring tool here for rough mixing only. We are just trying to knock down the dust this would make. I ended up using a small paint scraper to do the final blending. Make sure to stir and blend very thoroughly. You may feel like the geek equivalent of Bob Ross, mixing your compound in virtually the same way you would mix oil paint for your happy PCs. Your compound should be a gooey consistency. It should be almost runny, and should hold its shape, but you don’t want a clay-like consistency.

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We had a few left over empty thermal compound syringes lying around that I decided to fill up. Loading the used syringes is easy; just use a flat head screwdriver to load it up. You can pick these up on the web for about 20 cents each and it’s a nice clean way to store your compound.

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After dispensing my diamond compound onto the CPU I used an unused case badge I had lying around to apply an even coat of the grease. One thing I learned from trial and error is that if your compound is too thick you will have problems with the layer being too thick. The actual layer of the compound should be very thin. Before locking the CPU into the motherboard twist it into the compound a bit to insure good coverage and contact.

final thoughts - its over!

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The Test Rig:
The test machine us running Windows XP 64 bit. We are using one of the hottest (thermally speaking) Pentium D 3 GHz (over-clocked to 3.4 GHz) to really test our thermal conductivity. The heat sink is the Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. This may not be top of the line, but it is in that upper group where a good thermal compound will make a big difference. This heat sink has a copper block (approx 1.5oz) in direct contact with the CPU. Our rig has an Asus p5wd2 premium with 2 gigs of Kingston ram. We are interested in CPU heat so we went with a fairly old video card to put as much work as we can on the CPU. The card we are using is an MSI 6600. We are using 3D Mark and pc mark by Future Mark with the tests set to run completely in software mode.

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For our tests we use a combination of the onboard thermal reporting system as well as external inferred thermal testing equipment. Our reported temperatures below were the maximum detected temperature.

Tests Results:
We have results for our first batch (8 grams compound with the 25 Carats of diamond) and our final batch for comparison. Even the thicker compound provided some improvements, but the right consistency does make a big difference.

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Summary / End Results:
While this obviously shows that the diamond compound is effective, the question I have rely had to think about is “is there a sustainable market for this”? With the amount of money that people spend on high end all copper heat sinks alone I believe there is. But a complex part of the problem of mass manufacturing is the purity of the diamond. If I am using a diamond compound I want to get the maximum amount of cooling out of it! I don’t want diamond and quarts mixed for example. Making your own thermal grease is a great option until there are better options, and its a lot cheaper too!


Fuente: http://inventgeek.com/Projects/DiamondG ... rview.aspx

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mar Ago 04, 2009 10:18 pm
por VRaven
Chamo yo no se ingles! :(

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mar Ago 04, 2009 11:44 pm
por CARLOS*A1
Fenix esta buena esa informacion, a ver si en Amazon la colocan en venta. Me gustaria buscar a ver si consigo otra fuetne que avale esa informacion, de http://inventgeek.com/Projects/DiamondG ... rview.aspx .

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mié Ago 05, 2009 12:16 am
por ThePhoenixBird
VRaven escribió:Chamo yo no se ingles! :(
Deberias aprender: "El ingles es a la tecnologia, como el latin es a las letras."

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mié Ago 05, 2009 1:16 am
por dealedep
los resultados son muy buenos sobre todo en carga maxima del sistema, donde puedo conseguir esos diamantes de forma economica aqui en venezuela?

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mié Ago 05, 2009 4:37 pm
por guti696
O.o wtf?, 33 dolares, mmm es reusable el "polvo de diamantes" ?? o hay que estar cambiando la pasta cada cuanto ?

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Jue Ago 13, 2009 3:57 pm
por Striker
no me 4"#$"#$" xD q caimanes hahah diamantes de sangre Proximamente en su supermecado mas cercano xD :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Jue Ago 27, 2009 12:46 pm
por >>Yagami
Que increible esto, jamas habia escuchado algo asi.

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mié Sep 02, 2009 9:06 am
por josemsg75
Bueno ya esta a la venta una pasta termica a base de polvo Diamantes sintético purificado:
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" IC Carat Diamond 7 compuesto térmica maximiza la transferencia de calor térmico entre el núcleo de la CPU y el disipador térmico aprovechando la conductividad térmica superior del diamante. De diamante sintético purificado tiene una conductividad térmica de 2,000-2,500 W / mK en comparación con 406-429 W / mK de plata pura. De cinco veces mejor conductividad térmica en comparación a la plata lo hace un material superior, transferencia de calor para la refrigeración de CPU de alto rendimiento y conductividad eléctrica y no capacitivos. Aplicación: IC Diamond está principalmente compuesta de polvo de diamantes, y como tal es bastante grueso. La correcta aplicación es fundamental para un rendimiento óptimo. Apriete en el centro de la CPU de una cantidad de compuestos de diamante IC del tamaño de un guisante - el centro de la CPU es donde se concentra la mayor parte del calor. Coloque el disipador de la CPU y empujar hacia abajo para difundir IC Diamond sobre la superficie de la CPU. Fije el disipador de calor y encender el PC. Tiempo de curado: IC Diamond requiere un tiempo mínimo para alcanzar el máximo rendimiento, en la mayoría de los casos, IC Diamond alcanzará el máximo rendimiento al cabo de dos horas de uso. Estabilidad: IC Diamond ha sido diseñado para la estabilidad - que no sangran o por separado en el uso normal. "

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Fuente:http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7038/ ... html?tl=g8

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Sab Ene 16, 2010 3:27 pm
por rbass93
demonios el hyoga gooler? aunque que tanto pueda hacer? por lo que pueda costar..
que me imagino sera alguito... aqui les dejo el sueño de todo overclocker el unico polvo de diamantes
conocido por mi hasta ahora..
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Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Sab Ene 16, 2010 10:30 pm
por Jhoenv
lol lol lol lol lol

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Dom Ene 17, 2010 1:16 am
por guti696
Tremendos patos los de caballeros del zodiaco..

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Lun Feb 01, 2010 6:38 pm
por ThePhoenixBird
guti696 escribió:Tremendos patos los de caballeros del zodiaco..
Pero segurito que mas de uno lo veia todos los dias en televen cuando eran carajitos

Re: Pasta Termica a base de Polvo de Diamantes

Publicado: Mié Feb 03, 2010 12:56 am
por osiricat
para mi caballeros del zodiaco (saint seiya) fue como mazinger Z para los cuarentones, a little respect! u.u, oye alguién ha comprado la Ic diamond o pidió su paquetico de medicina-diamante a ebay? me interesa xD

Osi